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charliebrown
23-10-2011, 09:28 AM
really depends on his budget though...


That prelude would be a massive upgrade from that auto dc4 of yours, charlie, but have you considered a dc2 vtir? they are in that price range also..

depends what you wan't out of the car to as well.

Yep dc2r out of budget, well a good condition one is at least. Ive been looking for a dc2 for months man, haven't been able to find one i like.


If you want I can give you a demo of my DC2R charlie brown, if you don't live too far east, however I'm a shit driver so don't expect much :P

Yes please! I'm in noble/springy south. Would love to ride shotgun. Fastest car i've ever been in would probably be my mum's 2L camry :o

Super-DA9
23-10-2011, 04:12 PM
@Khang Bursting bubble here: VTI-R is no where near a TYPE-R IMO

I've owned both and the TYPE-R has crazy amount of handling along with such a smooth stock ride whilst the VTI-R was still smooth but was missing those ultimate mods to make it feel like a perfectly steered vehicle. My old prelude sure did accommodate more towards the DC2r handling and smooth ride but was only lacking the recaro's lol it is still a car which makes you feel like your driving a toy car and handles great!

Bak on track if you desire a prelude as a daily that is good dude just depends what you want and it's really only up to you, you will be driving it and loving it just like you did with yours now

stock for stock the type R does sh*t all over the vti-r, but that'd be because the type r is basically a pre-modded version and i guess you probably pay for that difference too. vti-r's can be really good with mods, but I guess you pay for that too. so it really comes down to whether you can afford a type r straight up or not, I know I couldn't lol.

Super-DA9
23-10-2011, 04:15 PM
As a daily though, the prelude has leather interior, cruise control, arguably a nicer interior. And for some reason chicks love preludes, i always see some asian babes driving them lol



please never base any part of your decision to buy a car on what "the chicks like" lol

need to make sure it's what YOU want and not the "chicks" :P

Vvvtec
23-10-2011, 04:35 PM
stock for stock the type R does sh*t all over the vti-r, but that'd be because the type r is basically a pre-modded version and i guess you probably pay for that difference too. vti-r's can be really good with mods, but I guess you pay for that too. so it really comes down to whether you can afford a type r straight up or not, I know I couldn't lol.

Pretty much exactly what I was going to say :thumbsup:

45SET
23-10-2011, 04:58 PM
Nothing to my Integra... but something to it's new motor...

This was the 2nd weekend in a row that I had worked on my new engine. Last week we basically just pulled off some parts, and tidied a few things up... nothing productive.

This week on the other hand... We started with this
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0159.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0161.jpg

And these parts needed to be fitted
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0160.jpg

And for those of you playing at home... it'll be fitted to this in the next 2 weeks (Sourcing a few smaller pieces)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMG_6437.jpg

The day started by pulling the rocker and timing covers off. The engine looks very clean inside
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0162.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0163.jpg
(Cam on the right of the above pic is the 25' VTC)

After we took the covers off we had to remove both the timing chain, and the oil pump chain (Refer above picture), as I'll be running a K20 oil pump rather then the K24 one... and after I compared the two, I was happy I made that decision

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0164.jpg

Top is the K24 oil pump, bottom is the K20 oil pump (This needs to be slightly modified). As you can see, K20 item is MUCH smaller, and uses MUCH less parts... so should make a few extra KW.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0165.jpg

Here is a picture of the crank... again... nice and clean.

K20 oil pump fitted
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0166.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0167.jpg

After this, we moved onto fitting the 50' VTC. This is a fairly basic procedure, as it's just loosening the old 25' VTC, then replacing it with the 50' VTC.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0168.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0169.jpg

After the VTC was fitted, we fit everything back together, which was a little bit trickier then we thought, as we were worried about stretching both the timing chain and the oil pump chain. But once everything was fitted, everything lined up, and nothing was stretched

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0170.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0171.jpg
Here is a pic of everything fitted before we put all the covers back on.

We put the J's Racing K20 Baffled sump on, which was basically the only "issue" from the entire day! The K24 sump is made of a thin steel, where as the K20 sump is made of a cast metal, so we couldn't use the bolts from the K24 sump. As I found out Hondabond is great stuff, so I'll be taking the bolts from my current K20 when I take it out in 2 weeks!

Final pics with RBC and Skunk2 70mm throttle body fitted!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0173.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0174.jpg

I'd like to thank Jimmy for BYP, as he has helped me a fair bit with parts and information on my current build.

If anyone has any questions, let me know

Dubstein
23-10-2011, 05:43 PM
45SET you got game hahah! Hope all goes well man, looking likes its coming along really well.

Oh btw we past 1k Replies and almost at 30k Views! Thanks everyone :)

charliebrown
23-10-2011, 06:01 PM
please never base any part of your decision to buy a car on what "the chicks like" lol

need to make sure it's what YOU want and not the "chicks" :P

its all about what da chix want bro, what we want dont matter.

also i thought of a really stupid reason of why i don't want a dc2r. i drop my mate off home most days and he's BIG, always turns his legs over, sits sideways and gets out of the seat. I could see any "bucket seat" becoming "not a bucket seat" in a matter of seconds. gsi seat is flat as fk on that side :(

i know all you guys experience the pain of careless bastards, e.g. cunce walking past and their bag scratches your car. or BENDS your mirror in to get through etc. stay strong boys

Indie
23-10-2011, 06:05 PM
My girlfriend doesn't like hatchbacks or coupes. She wants a medium sized sedan, in black. My Integra does absolutely nothing for her. I imagine she'd possibly prefer a Prelude, as it's got that flat, Silvia shape to it. It's a bit more of a baller car than the Teg.

DC2-PWR
23-10-2011, 06:09 PM
Nothing to my Integra... but something to it's new motor...

This was the 2nd weekend in a row that I had worked on my new engine. Last week we basically just pulled off some parts, and tidied a few things up... nothing productive.

This week on the other hand... We started with this
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0159.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0161.jpg

And these parts needed to be fitted
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0160.jpg

And for those of you playing at home... it'll be fitted to this in the next 2 weeks (Sourcing a few smaller pieces)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMG_6437.jpg

The day started by pulling the rocker and timing covers off. The engine looks very clean inside
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0162.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0163.jpg
(Cam on the right of the above pic is the 25' VTC)

After we took the covers off we had to remove both the timing chain, and the oil pump chain (Refer above picture), as I'll be running a K20 oil pump rather then the K24 one... and after I compared the two, I was happy I made that decision

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0164.jpg

Top is the K24 oil pump, bottom is the K20 oil pump (This needs to be slightly modified). As you can see, K20 item is MUCH smaller, and uses MUCH less parts... so should make a few extra KW.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0165.jpg

Here is a picture of the crank... again... nice and clean.

K20 oil pump fitted
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0166.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0167.jpg

After this, we moved onto fitting the 50' VTC. This is a fairly basic procedure, as it's just loosening the old 25' VTC, then replacing it with the 50' VTC.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0168.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0169.jpg

After the VTC was fitted, we fit everything back together, which was a little bit trickier then we thought, as we were worried about stretching both the timing chain and the oil pump chain. But once everything was fitted, everything lined up, and nothing was stretched

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0170.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0171.jpg
Here is a pic of everything fitted before we put all the covers back on.

We put the J's Racing K20 Baffled sump on, which was basically the only "issue" from the entire day! The K24 sump is made of a thin steel, where as the K20 sump is made of a cast metal, so we couldn't use the bolts from the K24 sump. As I found out Hondabond is great stuff, so I'll be taking the bolts from my current K20 when I take it out in 2 weeks!

Final pics with RBC and Skunk2 70mm throttle body fitted!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0173.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0174.jpg

I'd like to thank Jimmy for BYP, as he has helped me a fair bit with parts and information on my current build.

If anyone has any questions, let me know

this is gonna be a monster robi, hope you can handle it :p

keep us posted!!

khanguskhan
23-10-2011, 06:11 PM
charlie ur solution get vtir and only change drivers seat

n yea we'll catch up some time so I can show you

charliebrown
23-10-2011, 07:14 PM
Yeah Indie, the cars i've noticed that chix dig on guys are the s15, 350z, prelude 5th gen and anything that is audi or bmw -_- they dont like clean civics, wrxs, evos and most performance cars. why they all drive micras, echos/yaris, jazz beats me...

khanguskhan, i recall you said like 2 of your mates just bought vtirs with low km for wicked prices. do you know where they looked? i always browse firesport, carsales, tradingpost, gumtree and can't find shit

Bulbasaur
23-10-2011, 07:18 PM
Yeah Indie, the cars i've noticed that chix dig on guys are the s15, 350z, prelude 5th gen and anything that is audi or bmw -_- they dont like clean civics, wrxs, evos and most performance cars. why they all drive micras, echos/yaris, jazz beats me...

khanguskhan, i recall you said like 2 of your mates just bought vtirs with low km for wicked prices. do you know where they looked? i always browse firesport, carsales, tradingpost, gumtree and can't find shit

they like 2 door lancers aswell lol. maybe you should get one

DTN
23-10-2011, 07:23 PM
come nsw charlie and buy this yellow dc2r

http://www.carsguide.com.au/search/vehicle-details/D_30138601/@N=4294962119+439++486+++4294965110&type=cars&rs=bs&searchType=1&vehicleType=1&pos=4&pr=D_15230224&nr=D_28778664

Super-DA9
23-10-2011, 07:24 PM
they like 2 door lancers aswell lol. maybe you should get one


or an excel with pink rims lol


come nsw charlie and buy this yellow dc2r

http://www.carsguide.com.au/search/vehicle-details/D_30138601/@N=4294962119+439++486+++4294965110&type=cars&rs=bs&searchType=1&vehicleType=1&pos=4&pr=D_15230224&nr=D_28778664

FUARK IT'S SO CHEAP!! Do it charlie!

but why soooo cheeeap???

charliebrown
23-10-2011, 07:25 PM
they like 2 door lancers aswell lol. maybe you should get one

oh yeah forgot about that. but it has to have an unproportioned body kit and altezzas otherwise its just another lancer. ya cant win these days...

khanguskhan
23-10-2011, 07:27 PM
He was just searching all over, he picked up his VTIR for like just under 8? including RWC, the previous owner didn't use it it belonged to his mother and she passed away and the car was just left there had like 100,000k kms which was good as, comp tested 232 hot across 3cylinders 228 for number 4? and the dyno numbers were really good too :D (very very sad dyno)

charliebrown
23-10-2011, 07:33 PM
come nsw charlie and buy this yellow dc2r

http://www.carsguide.com.au/search/vehicle-details/D_30138601/@N=4294962119+439++486+++4294965110&type=cars&rs=bs&searchType=1&vehicleType=1&pos=4&pr=D_15230224&nr=D_28778664

farkk that is cheap, in the middle of exams at the moment so cant just hop on a plane


He was just searching all over, he picked up his VTIR for like just under 8? including RWC, the previous owner didn't use it it belonged to his mother and she passed away and the car was just left there had like 100,000k kms which was good as, comp tested 232 hot across 3cylinders 228 for number 4? and the dyno numbers were really good too :D (very very sad dyno)

was it a facelift?

Lukey
23-10-2011, 07:39 PM
anyone else notice the paint on the rear bar and bit above it on the yellow one look funny?

couldve been in a rear end accident?

Super-DA9
23-10-2011, 07:43 PM
ahh you're right. could just be the photo but it'd be a good idea to take a look behind the boot trim.

blastnpast
23-10-2011, 07:44 PM
Seeming as though there is a GSI on that site for the same price as a type r something really must be SUS lol

Who knows maybe it has been written off and repaired the paint looks ok just needs a proper inspection photos can always be deceiving tho

1900-hustler
23-10-2011, 08:38 PM
quick shot from today..

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i157/1900-hustler/b557a831.jpg

mooshie
26-10-2011, 10:09 PM
Got my alignment done finally after swapping out all of my suspension, specs were all over the place, toe on the left front in by an inch!

Super-DA9
26-10-2011, 10:14 PM
haha same here dude, just got my wheel alignment done after changing 75% of my bushings. toe settings were crazy!

blastnpast
27-10-2011, 07:25 AM
Purchased ~ :

-NU Finish scratch doctor and NU Finish non abrasive polish
- Purchased Mugen pedal covers
- Purchased 1-5th Gear synchro
- Purchased Excedy Stage 1 racing clutch
- Purchased Windscreen iPhone holder

For my DC2R

charliebrown
27-10-2011, 09:32 AM
Let me know how the NU finish scratch doctor goes mate. I tried the polish (should be called wax?)... was not impressed

Super-DA9
27-10-2011, 09:35 AM
hmmm, wax only shines so if you were trying to polish out blemishes and things it wouldn't really do much :/

charliebrown
27-10-2011, 09:44 AM
Yep, i meant in regards to longevity and ease of application. It can get real messy with the liquid and it doesn't really shine at all tbh, just feels smoother for water beading. And if you get that shit on your trims... better go buy a bottle of trim detailer cos that shit won't come off otherwise

blastnpast
27-10-2011, 09:56 AM
Lol Charlie u crack me
Up

That shit sure does stain like a MO-FO from past use :) just got metho to
Clean it up!

And the one I got is very easy to use rub on in
And easily wipe off, did u use the liquid polish or the metal container type?

The only reason I got the scratch doctor is to phase out my blemishes (light swirls) caused by previous owner

charliebrown
27-10-2011, 09:58 AM
The orange bottle with the liquid ejaculate. Using metho so close to paint? To de-wax i was contemplating using it but ended up going with isopropyl alcohol just incase metho was too strong

Super-DA9
27-10-2011, 11:35 AM
wax and grease remover guys. spray can from supercheap for about $14. paint safe.

blastnpast
27-10-2011, 11:47 AM
The orange bottle with the liquid ejaculate. Using metho so close to paint? To de-wax i was contemplating using it but ended up going with isopropyl alcohol just incase metho was too strong

Wow really maybe your bottle was a bad batch lol it's simple to
Wipe on after it's dried up and looks like chalk and yeap u gotta be careful when working close to paint


Thanks Super-DA9 I'll try it next time

Super-DA9
27-10-2011, 11:55 AM
Thanks Super-DA9 I'll try it next time

:thumbsup:

Dubstein
28-10-2011, 11:36 PM
Started stripping and prepping, Tegs going to be Champion white!

http://i.imgur.com/qEmfn.jpg

charliebrown
28-10-2011, 11:53 PM
Farkk nice man. Take that intake resonator out while you're at it. shits huge! keep us posted on the paint job!

Dubstein
29-10-2011, 12:00 AM
Farkk nice man. Take that intake resonator out while you're at it. shits huge! keep us posted on the paint job!

Hahaha i did like 10 mins after i took the picture, so dumb the previous owner just left it there.. (He put the intake in)

blastnpast
29-10-2011, 09:05 AM
Buffed and polished the ****er, still trying to run in my new clutch and GB recondition lol

charliebrown
29-10-2011, 09:07 AM
Hand? Or using one of those orbital things?

Anyway buyer lowballed me after like 2 weeks... so i guess i'll be keeping my car a while longer. Made me waste my time getting rwc quotes and all sorts of shit while i'm in the middle of exams, ain't got no time for ****in around. I said 8500 firm no rwc first time around. Lowered to 8300 FIRM MEANS NO NEGO. So few days later he goes 7000 i take or 7500 with rwc. THE ****? dont understand no english?! aint gonna sell my car which ive had for less than a year at over $5000 loss

blastnpast
29-10-2011, 10:01 AM
Ah Charlie for the love of low ballers -,- had the same issue with a guy wanting to buy my asr .. Price was $150 nego he said $125 I said yes then he says wait $100 it doesn't come with bolts... Fkn wankers these days -.-

charliebrown
29-10-2011, 12:40 PM
Should i just sell for 7k... i cbf with dumb people coming to inspect and trying to nego. Does my head in

DTN
29-10-2011, 01:46 PM
theres gonna be a loss either way just depends by how much lol is 7k gonna be enough to cover most for the new car?

89lude
29-10-2011, 02:17 PM
i think getting 7.5k is good money. car market it slow these days.

charliebrown
29-10-2011, 03:23 PM
I haven't found a car i want yet though, so no rush to sell. But if i do find one... i won't be able to sell it fast enough to get money to buy. Can try get a loan off someone i guess.

Looking at this white DC2R advertised for 13K but it the rear bar looks resprayed so im assuming it's been in some sort of accident. Type R badge at the back is also missing so the rear garnish also replaced/resprayed perhaps

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=11510117&__Qpb=1&Cr=2&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&MileageTo=753&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965105% 204294965322%20903%20753%201622&silo=1011&__No=15&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=32&__sid=13147D3F1FD0

EKVTIR-T
29-10-2011, 03:26 PM
The outside looks tidy but the drivers recaro bolster is massacred

DTN
29-10-2011, 04:15 PM
yeah they didnt do a good job covering up the black plastic bits for the rear lol.

charliebrown
29-10-2011, 04:42 PM
What black plastic bits?

1900-hustler
29-10-2011, 04:45 PM
I haven't found a car i want yet though, so no rush to sell. But if i do find one... i won't be able to sell it fast enough to get money to buy. Can try get a loan off someone i guess.

Looking at this white DC2R advertised for 13K but it the rear bar looks resprayed so im assuming it's been in some sort of accident. Type R badge at the back is also missing so the rear garnish also replaced/resprayed perhaps

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=11510117&__Qpb=1&Cr=2&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&MileageTo=753&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965105% 204294965322%20903%20753%201622&silo=1011&__No=15&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=32&__sid=13147D3F1FD0

just have a look at the car..

dont forget the car is over 10 years old already so cosmetic damage is expected

as long as the engine is strong & maintained it will be a good pickup

nego off the price if you can and then respray the whole car for 2.5k if thats really buggin you

Bludger
29-10-2011, 06:02 PM
and the cycle starts again.

Mint dc2r.........

tripleuse
29-10-2011, 07:52 PM
Hand? Or using one of those orbital things?

Anyway buyer lowballed me after like 2 weeks... so i guess i'll be keeping my car a while longer. Made me waste my time getting rwc quotes and all sorts of shit while i'm in the middle of exams, ain't got no time for ****in around. I said 8500 firm no rwc first time around. Lowered to 8300 FIRM MEANS NO NEGO. So few days later he goes 7000 i take or 7500 with rwc. THE ****? dont understand no english?! aint gonna sell my car which ive had for less than a year at over $5000 loss

7gs is good man i think u will regret not taking that offer.

u mad?
29-10-2011, 08:04 PM
7gs is good man i think u will regret not taking that offer.this.

its a gsi

DC2-PWR
29-10-2011, 08:05 PM
7gs is good man i think u will regret not taking that offer.

7g's for a gsi is very very good! I thought GSi's were like 1-5 grand max

charliebrown
29-10-2011, 08:25 PM
Hmm... ill give it a few more days to see if he raises his offer. He's not gonna find another car in that condition with the same amount of extras for any cheaper.

GSi_PSi
30-10-2011, 10:10 AM
7g's is manual VTiR money. Take that offer dude.

Bludger
30-10-2011, 11:48 AM
Hmm... ill give it a few more days to see if he raises his offer. He's not gonna find another car in that condition with the same amount of extras for any cheaper.
5g loss?

Your fault for buying an expensive car.

Car is worth what someone is willing to pay.

No one will pay what you're asking for your car.

Bludger
30-10-2011, 11:49 AM
hmm, maybe another you might.

SuperJDM.
30-10-2011, 09:42 PM
lmfao, all this time i thought you were talking about a VTIR but its only a GSI?

Cmon mate

Indie
01-11-2011, 07:03 PM
Hand? Or using one of those orbital things?

Anyway buyer lowballed me after like 2 weeks... so i guess i'll be keeping my car a while longer. Made me waste my time getting rwc quotes and all sorts of shit while i'm in the middle of exams, ain't got no time for ****in around. I said 8500 firm no rwc first time around. Lowered to 8300 FIRM MEANS NO NEGO. So few days later he goes 7000 i take or 7500 with rwc. THE ****? dont understand no english?! aint gonna sell my car which ive had for less than a year at over $5000 lossYou'll be losing money no matter what you do. You paid too much. $7500 is the most you can reasonably expect to get, in my opinion. He's low-balling an overpriced offer. It sucks that you're going to have to throw away money like that, but you already lost the $5k when you bought the car.

charliebrown
01-11-2011, 07:40 PM
Selling up yet Indie? I can't find shit -_-

Going to check out an EG VTi soon, might settle for a D series lol

Indie
02-11-2011, 02:54 PM
Selling up yet Indie? I can't find shit -_-

Going to check out an EG VTi soon, might settle for a D series lolNah, I've decided to hold off until I've got more money set aside for a replacement. I also think it'd be better for you to get an EK/EG. I probably would have, in hindsight. I hope you find something nice.

Bludger
02-11-2011, 02:55 PM
Selling up yet Indie? I can't find shit -_-

Going to check out an EG VTi soon, might settle for a D series lol
whats wrong with your current car?

charliebrown
02-11-2011, 02:55 PM
Been looking for shit for a manual conversion. Should cost under 2k and i can get everything i need pretty easily.

What's wrong with it you say? I don't know if you can call it a "car"

tripleuse
02-11-2011, 05:19 PM
Selling up yet Indie? I can't find shit -_-

Going to check out an EG VTi soon, might settle for a D series lol

.. just giving up on finding a dc2r for a d series eg? just loooking for the vtec badge like every other fanboy? why bother selling ur car, u would be just downgrading. THINK man dont make 2 stupid mistakes

Bludger
02-11-2011, 05:48 PM
Been looking for shit for a manual conversion. Should cost under 2k and i can get everything i need pretty easily.

What's wrong with it you say? I don't know if you can call it a "car"So, you're trying to flog off this "car" for more than it's worth?

mocchi
02-11-2011, 06:24 PM
dont bother try to do manual conversion with c2/b2 manual gbox. not worth it.
might as well do an engine swap.

u mad?
02-11-2011, 06:32 PM
dont bother try to do manual conversion with c2/b2 manual gbox. not worth it.
might as well do an engine swap.
this

c7 engine and gb conversion.


or just sell the car and get something else.

EKVTIR-T
02-11-2011, 06:40 PM
phuc dat

J swaps are where its at now

Bludger
02-11-2011, 07:17 PM
http://images.travelpod.com/users/mamorris/1.1299080012.local-business.jpg

mocchi
02-11-2011, 07:54 PM
http://images.travelpod.com/users/mamorris/1.1299080012.local-business.jpg

hahahahahahahha omfgggggggggg

charliebrown
02-11-2011, 07:55 PM
.. just giving up on finding a dc2r for a d series eg? just loooking for the vtec badge like every other fanboy? why bother selling ur car, u would be just downgrading. THINK man dont make 2 stupid mistakes

Pretty sure a manual EG VTi is an upgrade from this auto POS

GSi_PSi
02-11-2011, 09:35 PM
why did you buy your car in the first place my i ask ?

Bludger
02-11-2011, 09:37 PM
1st ever car?

jumped into it too fast, as we all do with 1st times.

mocchi
02-11-2011, 09:38 PM
why did you buy your car in the first place my i ask ?

thats not a fair question i would say. some people bought their car without knowing anything about it.
purely for looks / knowledge had at time of purchase.

if i knew what i know now, i would never buy a second hand car.
i'd buy a shell with clean title and build that.

charliebrown
02-11-2011, 09:57 PM
why did you buy your car in the first place my i ask ?

The 2 above responses sum it up pretty much. I wanted a car, i looked for one and rushed into it (went specifically for dealerships too! thinking id get a good condition car) not taking into consideration resale value. I knew NOTHING back then, couldn't even open the bonnet or take off a wheel. Was a good (expensive) lesson nonetheless.

Now that i've researched and learnt some stuff about cars, i've DIY'd a bit on my car and others and saving as much money as possible and getting experience. Doing an automotive course this summer but sadly it's not enough as i still have no idea how to do engine conversions and the tricky stuff like timing belts, water pumps etc

VTI-RRR
02-11-2011, 10:01 PM
guys no offence to anyone or anything but this is a ( ***Official What did you do to your Integra today***) not that you cant find a dc2 or anything like that.

Bludger
02-11-2011, 10:08 PM
guys no offence to anyone or anything but this is a ( ***Official What did you do to your Integra today***) not that you cant find a dc2 or anything like that.

so, what did you do?

EKVTIR-T
02-11-2011, 10:09 PM
Charlies talking about what he did and does with his Integra so its on topic

VTI-RRR
02-11-2011, 10:11 PM
so, what did you do?

if you really want to know i installed my front camber kit, lca, engine damper, and dba discs

VTI-RRR
02-11-2011, 10:12 PM
Charlies talking about what he did and does with his Integra so its on topic
i agree there are some things on topic but alot off topic

Bludger
02-11-2011, 10:14 PM
i agree there are some things on topic but alot off topic

report post feature.

report me.
































nomsayin.

charliebrown
02-11-2011, 10:14 PM
If people posted only what they did... this thread would be 1 page long, and it would be only Dubstein with his car when he first bought it and threw out some rice

Bludger
02-11-2011, 10:14 PM
if you really want to know i installed my front camber kit, lca, engine damper, and dba discs

I took my blue smoking dc2r for a drive for the 1st time in 3 weeks.










almost came.

VTI-RRR
02-11-2011, 10:17 PM
If people posted only what they did... this thread would be 1 page long, and it would be only Dubstein with his car when he first bought it and threw out some rice

but isnt that what this thread is about?

SuperJDM.
02-11-2011, 10:19 PM
If people posted only what they did... this thread would be 1 page long, and it would be only Dubstein with his car when he first bought it and threw out some rice

errrrrrrrrr..... thats what the thread is about?

theres a vent thread if you want to vent about people not giving you a overpriced price of your DC4

jeremydawg
02-11-2011, 10:25 PM
whilst we are off topic why does everyone all of a sudden have penis's as their avatar?

khanguskhan
02-11-2011, 10:25 PM
We'll he's updating the people that are interested with things that are happening with HIS INTEGRA, hence we are actually on topic, because this is like a lounge area for people that want to share. It's not like you guys miss or gain any information when he makes a post..

stevo716
02-11-2011, 10:27 PM
today i installed a Fuel Pressure reg and gauge, considering this is a what did i do today it felt relavent
Benefits, nothin as of yet need a retune, but car backfires nicely when psi is up haha, cant keep psi up yet cuz need to install my fuel pump as it stalls.

and im sure im not only one mods a integra, if u wanna spam a thread, there is one for that.

EKVTIR-T
02-11-2011, 10:28 PM
whilst we are off topic why does everyone all of a sudden have penis's as their avatar?


Its JDM havent you heard?

jeremydawg
02-11-2011, 10:37 PM
JDM YO? im getting one on my windscreen then

charliebrown
02-11-2011, 10:37 PM
The people who read and post on this thread are predominantly integra owners so what's the harm in asking them for opinions on integras. Better than making a new thread in the noob forum and getting flamed or trolled by randoms who know nothing about what you're saying.

Bludger
02-11-2011, 10:41 PM
The people who read and post on this thread are predominantly integra owners so what's the harm in asking them for opinions on integras. Better than making a new thread in the noob forum and getting flamed or trolled by randoms who know nothing about what you're saying.

dats right, post stupid questions and get trolled

lol

like can't find cheap good em1
how much k swap into ej8
blue smoking dc2r

etc.

SuperJDM.
02-11-2011, 10:44 PM
dats right, post stupid questions and get trolled

lol

like can't find cheap good em1
how much k swap into ej8
blue smoking dc2r

etc.

HAHAHAH every time you mention EM1 part i crack up

VTI-RRR
02-11-2011, 10:44 PM
The people who read and post on this thread are predominantly integra owners so what's the harm in asking them for opinions on integras. Better than making a new thread in the noob forum and getting flamed or trolled by randoms who know nothing about what you're saying.

you can make a thread in the integra page, people that have integras will reply and give you there opinions.

Super-DA9
02-11-2011, 10:55 PM
I installed a new driveshaft today. thats both of them now. massive PITA.

charliebrown
02-11-2011, 11:49 PM
And whoever said my gsi is overpriced... you got NO idea mate. GSis go for 13k+

http://digiads.com.au/carsales/used-cars/USED-1996-HONDA-INTEGRA-COUPE-CAR-FOR-SALE-PRAHRAN-VIC-3181.htm

DC2-PWR
02-11-2011, 11:53 PM
Hahahahhahahahaha

His dreaming

GSi_PSi
03-11-2011, 12:11 AM
no some dude thinks his car is worth 13k, they dont go for 13k lol

integragsi96
03-11-2011, 12:19 AM
no some dude thinks his car is worth 13k, they dont go for 13k lol

thats type r territory there!

Tell him his dreaming!

u mad?
03-11-2011, 12:21 AM
thats type r territory there!

Tell him his dreaming!
x2

That'll be for sale for a while LOL

Indie
03-11-2011, 01:15 AM
I like this thread the way it is. Just change the name to the Integra general discussion thread, and there's no reason to complain.

GSis do not go for 13k.

Super-DA9
03-11-2011, 06:34 AM
13k??!! Thats waaaay too much.

r3ckless
03-11-2011, 06:38 AM
Rofl.

blastnpast
03-11-2011, 06:41 AM
Lol

That is funny he has it so high but maybe he has it that high for a reason I.e sold car waiting for the rest of the money so no one comes to look at it coz it's over priced or maybe he is trying to be a reversed scammer on those scamming pricks who are funnily enough all over the internet

:D

SuperJDM.
03-11-2011, 07:11 AM
And whoever said my gsi is overpriced... you got NO idea mate. GSis go for 13k+

http://digiads.com.au/carsales/used-cars/USED-1996-HONDA-INTEGRA-COUPE-CAR-FOR-SALE-PRAHRAN-VIC-3181.htm

ROFL HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you have made my morning mate.

"you got NO idea" HAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA

jeremydawg
03-11-2011, 07:27 AM
na cmon guys... it has a "genuine oem radio casset". hard to find this in a gsi nowadays

Bludger
03-11-2011, 07:29 AM
My teg still has original radio cassette player, with 6 disc cd stack.

worth heaps.

integragsi96
03-11-2011, 08:09 AM
na cmon guys... it has a "genuine oem radio casset". hard to find this in a gsi nowadays

my old integra had a oem radio casset with the oem 10 cd stacker.

blastnpast
03-11-2011, 09:37 AM
Lol my type r still has the oem unit with cassette and 6 stacker in the boot :)

Bludger
03-11-2011, 09:43 AM
OG H unit & stacker club.

integragsi96
03-11-2011, 10:02 AM
i sold it tho :(
my prelude has the exact same headunit and 10 cd stacker too! so i guess im in it on the Prelude side.
bought a new headunit...cbf putting it in

votek
03-11-2011, 10:34 AM
i sold my blue gsi integra for $1,500 a year ago.

mint condition. find my fs thread on here some where

and i sold my dc2r for $14,500 a 3 years ago

3 years agoo..

integragsi96
03-11-2011, 10:52 AM
sold my integra gsi for 1k in august. wasnt perfect by far but it had decent handling mods on it

mocchi
03-11-2011, 11:01 AM
i would buy a gsi for 1k

integragsi96
03-11-2011, 11:30 AM
had like 300xxxkms on it tho lol
engine only had 100xxxkms

u mad?
03-11-2011, 01:56 PM
sold my integra gsi for 1k in august. wasnt perfect by far but it had decent handling mods on it

I thought it just had king springs?

tripleuse
03-11-2011, 04:25 PM
Pretty sure a manual EG VTi is an upgrade from this auto POS
doubt its a upgrade ure going from a twin cam to a single cam,but **** sorry i forgot it was vtec hahahaha srsly man....

charliebrown
03-11-2011, 04:51 PM
**** the number of cams lol i'm talking driving experience here! Driving auto is dangerous shit man, you fall asleep at the wheel cos your feet ain't moving end up numb and shit can't feel your legs and left hand in your pants.

Bludger
03-11-2011, 04:52 PM
**** the number of cams lol i'm talking driving experience here! Driving auto is dangerous shit man, you fall asleep at the wheel cos your feet ain't moving end up numb and shit can't feel your legs and left hand in your pants.
95% of falcadores out there are auto, do they fall asleep.

Blame the user, not the tool.

tripleuse
03-11-2011, 05:10 PM
**** the number of cams lol i'm talking driving experience here! Driving auto is dangerous shit man, you fall asleep at the wheel cos your feet ain't moving end up numb and shit can't feel your legs and left hand in your pants.

ur right vtec works great with single cams. hahahahaha cmon man rethink getting a single cam ull regret it, ull get it.. like the manual..then you will get used to manual and think wow, this is ****ing slow, and then want to sell it. hahaha even b18bs munch single cams hahaha, what driving experience? its a d series civic man.

u mad?
03-11-2011, 05:12 PM
ur right vtec works great with single cams. hahahahaha cmon man rethink getting a single cam ull regret it, ull get it.. like the manual..then you will get used to manual and think wow, this is ****ing slow, and then want to sell it. hahaha even b18bs munch single cams hahaha, what driving experience? its a d series civic man.

speeketh thy truth

no point moving from one shit car to another shit car.

charliebrown
03-11-2011, 05:14 PM
Hahah i ain't never experienced vtec so it isn't a big deal to me vtec or not. I guess i'm just bored man, need some changes, want something new to learn.

u mad?
03-11-2011, 05:20 PM
Hahah i ain't never experienced vtec so it isn't a big deal to me vtec or not. I guess i'm just bored man, need some changes, want something new to learn.

have you considered engine swap?

kill 3 birds with one stone


you get:

more power
manual
keep your clean dc4/no hassles of selling and buying a new car

just a bit of cost involved lol
its either that or get a whole new car completely.

u mad?
03-11-2011, 05:21 PM
Or keep your car as is until you get your opens, then buy a car you really wan't.

tripleuse
03-11-2011, 05:21 PM
i was in the same boat as you, savefor a better car eg b18c2/7 conversions are perfect for ur budget and quick 2 or a dc2r u wont regret it man. compared to a pile of shit vti civic that has 200,000 and has been treated like shit, or thrashed.

charliebrown
03-11-2011, 05:33 PM
Yeah i wouldn't mind an engine swap. b18c7 and manual conversion same time. There's a jdm b18c engine + gearbox but stupid VIC laws... need eng cert for that so c7 seems best.

My engine still going strong though, 107xxx and won't get very much if i sell it since its a b18b2

tripleuse
03-11-2011, 05:46 PM
hahahah exact same boat as me, i went kswap on my dc4 2, my car was manual tho same ks 105k.. , as i said before if u keep the exterior stock and dont act like a ****wit and no one will know. kswaps are cheap.. untill u catch the "lets make this car for track bug" shit gets expensive. but if u were on a budget u could easy do a k24 swap cheap.

charliebrown
03-11-2011, 05:48 PM
Where do you source parts? Backyard job or get a workshop to do it and supply the engine and parts?

tripleuse
03-11-2011, 06:19 PM
i did the work myself, parts are easy to source, most of the parts i got were people on this forum, BYP and jdm yard helped me alot. Giving advice and products. BYP have great advice, the amount of questions i asked them, im suprised they havent stopped replying to my pms by now.hahaahhaha

DC2-PWR
03-11-2011, 06:22 PM
i did the work myself, parts are easy to source, most of the parts i got were people on this forum, BYP and jdm yard helped me alot. Giving advice and products. BYP have great advice, the amount of questions i asked them, im suprised they havent stopped replying to my pms by now.hahaahhaha

Yeah BYP have great people, they never stop giving out advice to my 1000's of questions. They also have great labour rates as I've heard.

Vvvtec
03-11-2011, 06:30 PM
Ether way your losing money man.

Do an engine conversion.

DC2-PWR
03-11-2011, 06:36 PM
Ether way your losing money man.

Do an engine conversion.

oi you

updates on your car :)

89lude
03-11-2011, 06:39 PM
If it was ME i'd sell the teg buy the egg. Use the extra coin you make from making the change to do an engine conversion.

The vti is a good start, efi and already has vtec wires makes your life easier when putting in a b series conversion. I'd skip the b16 and go for a b18 though.

The amount of labour going from auto to manual isnt really worth it imo.. Extra parts and a big pain in the ass to do!

GSi_PSi
03-11-2011, 06:42 PM
lol you sound like me when i first got my license, went from a DC4 auto to DC4 manual to DC2 lol. i should of just went DC2 from the start.
I, like you was researching manual conversion lol, then found out its too much of a mission to convert, as you need to cut out the frame
where the shift linkage will go and took advice and bought a cheap DC4 manual got sick of that and wanted vtec got a DC2, got sick of that wanted more
power so built a B20. Surprisingly i still haven't got sick of my b20 dc2 lol.

InB4 Cool Story Bro

charliebrown
03-11-2011, 06:49 PM
But how the fk can you get the car rego'd or RWC if it's an EG with a b-series. I want to stay legal and no engineer certificates etc

(teg with b18c7 is legal right? just go to vicroads and tell them theres a new engine in it from another integra? end of story?)

mocchi
03-11-2011, 07:01 PM
whats not legal about it?
262 or 282mm brakes are good, retain stock exhaust for low decibel level, engine number registered to chassis.
done.

u mad?
03-11-2011, 07:07 PM
whats not legal about it?
262 or 282mm brakes are good, retain stock exhaust for low decibel level, engine number registered to chassis.
done.i think he means legally be able to drive it on his p's

charliebrown
03-11-2011, 07:09 PM
I was under the impression engine swaps are illegal in VIC without an engineer certificate if it was not available in AUS from factory. So a DC2R engine in DC4 is legal, but K20 is not?

Vvvtec
03-11-2011, 07:10 PM
oi you

updates on your car :)

Not much to report until uni finishes :(

89lude
03-11-2011, 07:14 PM
well if thats the case then a b18c is not legal in a dc4 because they come with b18b? everything is 'illegal' at the end of the day...

u mad?
03-11-2011, 07:17 PM
I was under the impression engine swaps are illegal in VIC without an engineer certificate if it was not available in AUS from factory. So a DC2R engine in DC4 is legal, but K20 is not?

yes you will need modplate for k20. even though its still less than 10%(or is it 15% in vic?) increase in displacement, it wasn't oem or an option in a dc2/4. So technically you can't legally drive it.

If you're that worried about legalities (and by the sounds of thing you are) then sell up and by a dc2 vtir. best option for you imo. (or a type r if you can afford it)

charliebrown
03-11-2011, 07:20 PM
There's no displacement law 15% or whatever in VIC. Example would be the EG with b18c7 for sale. Guy probably got dicked driving it, forced to cancel rego and now it can't be rego'd again so it's useless.

And yeah a dc2 is at the top of my list. If one pops up i will definetely go for it

mocchi
03-11-2011, 07:22 PM
yeah its 10% umad. 15% is nsw i think.

the problem is not because it's illegal, but because it requires eng. certificate.
c7 in dc4 does not require eng. certificate afaik, not certain. optional replacement engine does not require eng. cert.
putting a v12 in eg would be illegal as it wont pass eng. cert.

once you get eng. cert, you can apply for rwc.
once you have rwc, it will be legal. whether its b18c7 or k20a2.

tripleuse
03-11-2011, 08:19 PM
just do it the dodge way like most people, dont rego the engine to the chasis.

charliebrown
03-11-2011, 08:35 PM
Then rear end a pulsar and sell house, sell family to pay it off cos insurance won't cover you. Fuarkkk

tripleuse
03-11-2011, 08:57 PM
i was just stating an alternative.

charliebrown
03-11-2011, 09:03 PM
I'm just fkn around man, i duno. Too many options and shit. Gotta think about it and do whatever is most cost effective and low risk.

tripleuse
03-11-2011, 09:04 PM
mm yeh think u should got type r or vtir :) u wont regret it, and if u go vtir later on u can b20 it :)

Vvvtec
03-11-2011, 09:22 PM
Just buy mine lol

charliebrown
03-11-2011, 09:23 PM
Just need something to last me 3 more years until i'm off my Ps and then it's WRX/STi :D

How many kms do you think is good for DC2? All the ones in VIC on carsales are like 180k+

CivicEGSI
03-11-2011, 09:33 PM
Aim for like 15xxxx - 17xxxx? Pretty old car i guess.

EKVTIR-T
03-11-2011, 09:37 PM
Just need something to last me 3 more years until i'm off my Ps and then it's WRX/STi :D

How many kms do you think is good for DC2? All the ones in VIC on carsales are like 180k+

Just go wrx now,black front mount with scoopless bonnet,plumb back bov and stealth styles

integragsi96
03-11-2011, 11:20 PM
I thought it just had king springs?

nahh. ground controls in the rear. extreme stiff springs in from and kyb excel g shocks. front strut brace, cusco rear strut brace, bride brix, few other things...kinda miss the straight through sound tho

Bludger
04-11-2011, 08:00 AM
this is a good idea.
Just go wrx now,black front mount with scoopless bonnet,plumb back bov and stealth styles

jeremydawg
04-11-2011, 04:04 PM
there are ways to get an exemption! ive heard of dudes getting there bosses to write a letter saying my worker needs to drive my xr6 turbo and so he needs an exemption... bam! you can drive turbo.

best example is if you work at a dealership, you can get an exemption because you have to drive all sorts of cars. so ive heard

GSi_PSi
04-11-2011, 08:31 PM
Very very very rare to get exemption. One dude I know can only drive his xr6t ute during work days during work hours , he's a plumber. Pretty gay conditions

45SET
04-11-2011, 10:58 PM
Shall update tomorrow night...

u mad?
04-11-2011, 11:26 PM
OoOoOoOoOo somebodies got there k24 in!

integragsi96
05-11-2011, 09:59 AM
i think my next car will be an integra of some sort....miss the tight chassis on them

charliebrown
05-11-2011, 12:41 PM
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?Cr=9&R=11479269&keywords=&trecs=31&silo=1011&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=1&__Nne=15&seot=1&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965105% 204294965322%20903%20753%201622&MileageTo=753&__sid=13147D3F1FD0

Only dc2 with <180k on carsales. Paint looks immac for red but it says "driven once a week". Is that a bad thing? Just needs a facelift front or JDM front

Super-DA9
05-11-2011, 01:14 PM
looks really nice (aside from the wheels) but dude, looking back on it in my case, it would have been easier if I had facelift to begin with, rather then messing around trying to get my ITR front on.

so if facelift is what you want, try to get it to begin with. take your time and wait for something perfect, don't "settle" for something thats not 100% what you want.

:)

charliebrown
05-11-2011, 01:23 PM
I don't mind the pre-facelift rear. Infact i prefer the amber taillights. But ive got a dc2r lip at home and i wanna use it lol

Bludger
05-11-2011, 01:27 PM
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?Cr=9&R=11479269&keywords=&trecs=31&silo=1011&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=1&__Nne=15&seot=1&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965105% 204294965322%20903%20753%201622&MileageTo=753&__sid=13147D3F1FD0

Only dc2 with <180k on carsales. Paint looks immac for red but it says "driven once a week". Is that a bad thing? Just needs a facelift front or JDM front

no it isn't

rhys.l
05-11-2011, 01:29 PM
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?Cr=9&R=11479269&keywords=&trecs=31&silo=1011&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=1&__Nne=15&seot=1&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965105% 204294965322%20903%20753%201622&MileageTo=753&__sid=13147D3F1FD0

Only dc2 with <180k on carsales. Paint looks immac for red but it says "driven once a week". Is that a bad thing? Just needs a facelift front or JDM front

I don't get it...what's wrong with something like this? http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=11286096&__Qpb=1&Cr=12&MileageTo=753&keywords=&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965105% 204294965322%20903%20753%201622&silo=1011&seot=1&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Nne=15&__No=0&trecs=31&__sid=132722193776

charliebrown
05-11-2011, 01:32 PM
I don't get it...what's wrong with something like this? http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=11286096&__Qpb=1&Cr=12&MileageTo=753&keywords=&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965105% 204294965322%20903%20753%201622&silo=1011&seot=1&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Nne=15&__No=0&trecs=31&__sid=132722193776

It's about 150km away. And price a bit higher than i'd like to spend for a dc2.

If that car was located in VIC it would have been sold ages ago.

Bludger
05-11-2011, 01:34 PM
I don't mind the pre-facelift rear. Infact i prefer the amber taillights. But ive got a dc2r lip at home and i wanna use it lol

It's like saying "I've got a landcruiser bull bar in my backyard, I want to get a land cruiser so i can use it."

Just sounds silly.....



Get the car you want, only compromise you should make is one regarding budget.

Bludger
05-11-2011, 01:35 PM
It's about 150km away. And price a bit higher than i'd like to spend for a dc2.

If that car was located in VIC it would have been sold ages ago.

The perfect car will last a long time compared to a two hour drive.

definitely worth a look. I would.










If i was looking.






































nomsayin...

rhys.l
05-11-2011, 01:51 PM
And price a bit higher than i'd like to spend for a dc2.

Weren't you going to sell your auto gsi for only a few k less than this? I was prepared to fly interstate when on the lookout for a dc2r. Selling your car and finding/deciding on something else seems like it has been a massive drama for you, so 150km should be nothing

charliebrown
05-11-2011, 02:05 PM
It's a different story when it's a dc2r. I'd go interstate for one of those. But yeah, if i had time i wouldn't mind driving a bit to check out cars. It's just i don't have anyone to go with, and looking by myself... i will not pick up potential problems.

Lukey
05-11-2011, 02:07 PM
It's about 150km away. And price a bit higher than i'd like to spend for a dc2.

If that car was located in VIC it would have been sold ages ago.

wtf u mean if it was located in vic, it is in vic. melb and surrounding suburbs isnt the only part of vic.

Bludger
05-11-2011, 02:08 PM
It's a different story when it's a dc2r. I'd go interstate for one of those. But yeah, if i had time i wouldn't mind driving a bit to check out cars. It's just i don't have anyone to go with, and looking by myself... i will not pick up potential problems.

What makes the dc2r worth going the distance for, but not another integra?

They're both potential cars that you'll use, live with and love.

makes no difference. I don't see why one deserves more effort than the other.

charliebrown
05-11-2011, 02:16 PM
You know what i mean Lukey. Traralgon is in whoop whoop...

Maybe i should just follow a dc2 on the road and give him an offer when he stops at maccas :/

Lukey
05-11-2011, 02:53 PM
its still in vic.

silly city people.

Bludger
05-11-2011, 02:59 PM
yeah, silly people from Melbourne.....

wait.... wot?

Super-DA9
05-11-2011, 03:07 PM
i drove 3.5 hours and stayed overnight in sydney to get my vti-r. sh*ts never easy when it comes to getting what you want. :/

stevo716
05-11-2011, 03:11 PM
I installed my fuel pump today, and on a DA it sucks many balls..
had to drop my tank, but i got it done cars running nicely. Just booking in a retune, and thats my last NA mod.... :O

SpoonS
05-11-2011, 05:08 PM
installed my mirrors

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad184/songkla/DSC_0844.jpg

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad184/songkla/DSC_0845.jpg

u mad?
05-11-2011, 05:18 PM
That's one sexy dc5 man! I take it that its not rego'd? lol

tripleuse
05-11-2011, 06:20 PM
more pics of ur dc5!

Bludger
05-11-2011, 06:23 PM
look here
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?153847-A-Race-car-is-born!-DC5

tripleuse
05-11-2011, 06:28 PM
thanks.

Indie
05-11-2011, 08:16 PM
Traralgon is only an hour to an hour and a half from where you live, charlie. It's really not far at all. Jump straight on the Monash freeway, easy.

Lukey
06-11-2011, 08:11 AM
i put more jb weld on my lca

blastnpast
06-11-2011, 10:40 AM
Cleaned interior, vacuumed etc

stevo716
06-11-2011, 11:32 AM
gaped and changed my spark plugs today, cud be placebo effect, but it seems like it idles nicer, my idles always been messy since i changed IM and camed it

45SET
06-11-2011, 01:11 PM
I should probably do a build thread...

*UPDATE*

So yesterday (5/11/2011) was d-day for the K20. I reved it out to 8,500RPM for the last time, and it still bought a smile to my face (Almost 5 years on)

I turned up at my friends place (Kurt) at 8am, and we waited for Jason to rock up before we started pulling things part.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0181.jpg

The day started by by loosening the hub nut (Which is a 36mm for those playing at home). Now... Kurt has every tool imaginable in his shed (Including a hoist)... but didn't have a 36mm bit, so while Kurt and his dad drained all the liquids from the engine, Jason and I went for a drive to find the bit... the joys of working on cars!

We returned with the bit, and started to try and take off the bolts... simple right... wrong. After breaking two breaker bar in the space of 10 min trying to remove the bolts, Kurt decided he wanted to go buy a new ratchet anyway, so again, went out to buy parts.

He came back with a 600ft/pd ratchet, that removed the bolts in a matter of seconds. With his new toy in hand, when ever a bolt needed removing, Kurt was on the scene!

After this we needed to remove remove the sub frame. Now there are two ways of doing this. One, remove the brake assembly from the sub frame, or remove the callipers from the brakes, and drop the brake assembly with the sub frame. As you can see from the below, we chose the latter.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0182.jpg

This process was fairly easy, and we have followed the RSX and TSX manuals for the entire process (Downloadable from the internet). I am retaining power steering and aircon. Aircon has not been removed from the car, and was removed from the K20, and then zip tied to a part of the engine so I don't need to worry about degassing it. As the front and rear engine mounts are connected to the sub frame, the engine was now only on the two side mounts.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0184.jpg

Underside of the engine with no sub frame
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0183.jpg

Next up, we needed to remove the wiring harness. Again, if you follow the manuals (RSX), it's fairly basic, and just make sure there is nothing connected to the engine. Only problem we experienced here was that the knock sensor on the front of the engine broke as we removed it! But upon closer inspection, it had either been broken for a while, or just needed a slight touch to break. As we had a hoist, dropping the engine was fairly basic.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0185.jpg

Then came the fun part! The Integra was raised on the hoist as high as it would go, and the K24 was rolled over on the engine stand so it was sitting next to the K20. So to save many headaches, I've decided that I'm going to run all the K20 pulleys (Crank, alternator, air con, power steering and water pump). So these where all removed from the K20 and K24, and swapped. One thing to note, you can't JUST swap the K24 and K20 water pumps, you need to swap over the entire gallery, as the pumps are slightly different (Out by about 2mm).

So, it was 2pm, we had removed the K20 from the car, the K24 was basically finished and almost ready to go in the car. Kurt, Glen, Jason and I were all getting a little excited at the prospect of actually doing a K20-to-K24 swap into a DC5R in 1 day... but... as everyone that has done something like this know, nothing runs smoothly.

Glen started putting the spark plugs into the K24 (As it didn't come with any, which I thought was rather odd, as it still had the coil packs). He spaced the plugs, and went to put the one into cylinder 1, when he said to me "Robi, are you sure these are the right plugs, this doesn't want to go in". I confirmed they were the right plugs, and that 3 people had looked over the part number to confirm it. So he moved onto cylinder 2, and it went in perfectly... as did 3 and 4. He went back to cylinder 1, and tried again... and confirmed our worst fears... the spark plug port had been threaded, and was like that before we even got the engine.

We sat around for about 20 min... all of us rather bummed at the fact that the worst thing that had happened during the entire build to this point was that we snapped an ABS cable while removing the callipers. While we were all sitting around, some options were thrown around:
- Loctight the spark plug into cylinder 1
- Remove the head and have it helicoiled
- Remove the K20 head and put it on the K24

Honestly, option 1 was never really an option. It would have meant that I would still have to remove the head eventually, and it would probably end up costing more in the long run.

Option 3 was considered for about 5 min. Then we realised that I still want to sell the K20 to recoup a little bit of money from the build, and I would still need to buy a new head gasket... so he wasn't going anywhere anyway.

Option 2 was the option that was finally decided on. So removing of the head begun. The TSX manual came in very big use for this process, as you need to remove the head bolts in a particular order, and only do quarter turns.

Here are all the valve train components.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0186.jpg

Here is the head. Spark plug port on the left is the sinister port!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0188.jpg

Here is the bottom end.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0187.jpg

So during the week, the spark plug port is going to get helicoiled, and next weekend we'll put the head back on to the engine and fit it in the car. At the moment the car is sitting on the hoist, with no engine, and no sub frame. The K20 is sitting under the car, and the K24 next to it. It was rather depressing see the car in this state, as I have so much pride in it, and I was hoping to actually drive it home that day (And at 2pm, it looked like it was going to happen).

I'll update the thread next weekend once everything is back together. If anyone has any questions let me know.

Thanks

Robi

Vvvtec
06-11-2011, 03:07 PM
Awesome work. Build thread please, I want to see more :)

Bludger
06-11-2011, 03:10 PM
Did the thread strip?

If yes, is it worth helicoil on a perfectly normal port>?

I mean, please point out the benefits, that are not so obvious...

45SET
06-11-2011, 03:13 PM
Did the thread strip?

If yes, is it worth helicoil on a perfectly normal port>?

Thread on the spark plug didn't strip, but it wasn't smooth putting it in.

Once we took the head off, we looked at the spark plug port (From the combustion camber side), and it had previously been threaded. I'll tell the workshop it is taken to to helicoil it, but if they think it can just be rethreaded, I'll have them do that.

GSi_PSi
06-11-2011, 05:37 PM
Damn that sux dude, have you thought of getting another cheap k20a head and swapping it over?.

45SET
06-11-2011, 05:52 PM
Damn that sux dude, have you thought of getting another cheap k20a head and swapping it over?.

Your post doesn't make sense... "cheap" k20 head... huh... I don't understand.

tripleuse
06-11-2011, 06:01 PM
i thought u could pick up k20z1 heads pretty cheap aswell. i would go that way aswell, why pull apart a perfectly working long block, wouldnt it make more sense to sell it and buy the head and k24 and have cash left over?, but anyways nice build :)

GSi_PSi
07-11-2011, 07:17 AM
ive seen the audm k20a2 long blocks go for like 1500 at a time.

45SET
07-11-2011, 11:19 AM
I have a K20 long block, but I would prefer to sell this as a whole, instead of just the bottom end, and I'm not interested in the hassle of looking for a K20 head.

Plus, it was $20 to get the head helicoiled, and it'll be done today. Yonas has a head gasket, rocker cover gasket and honda bond in stock, so should be finished this weekend!

Bludger
07-11-2011, 11:32 AM
Fix puncture left rear.

Lukey
07-11-2011, 06:45 PM
remove tyre front chassis brace

Dubstein
07-11-2011, 08:27 PM
Bought Skunk2 lowering springs

Super-DA9
07-11-2011, 08:33 PM
Bought Skunk2 lowering springs


gonna get shocks to match?

Super-DA9
07-11-2011, 08:37 PM
what I did with my integra today:

drove it and enjoyed myself :)

I'm looking for a good set of headers but you wouldn't believe how hard they are to find at a 1k budget right now :/

TODA headers would be mad but out of my price range when new. J's look good but not a lot of good enough reviews to support them. Tri-y's are affordable but apparently perform like crap in mid-range.

No ones selling RMF's in aus for what I can see either :/

GSi_PSi
07-11-2011, 09:25 PM
Order from US, the rmf rep are around 400-500 shipped

Dubstein
07-11-2011, 09:34 PM
gonna get shocks to match?

Quite frankly don't have the cash at the moment :/

DC2-PWR
07-11-2011, 09:36 PM
As much as I love my RMF headers, I'd save up for TODA headers if I were in your decision Tim.

I'd bet you, if you do get RMF, J's Racing, TRI-y etc, give it another year or so and you will want to upgrade again. Just because you will read, TODA is the best.

I'm waiting for my toda headers to compliment my tune more. I know there are other headers out that make more fancy power than toda, but 90% of them you have to pull out your a/c p/s.

Bang for buck, I'd pick RMF all day any day.

1900-hustler
07-11-2011, 09:46 PM
took out of for a spin

filled up petrol

GSi_PSi
07-11-2011, 11:15 PM
in all honesty moiz, genuine toda is genuine but the fakies seem to be making the same power figures, only thing bad about them i guess is the quality still doesnt have that
toda welds and finish , mind you that didnt stop my toda header from breaking at near the o2 sensor flange.

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2994369

GSi_PSi
07-11-2011, 11:28 PM
heres the new skunk2 alpha header, great reviews, the midrange match if not beat the toda

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SKUNK2-MegaPower-Header-Alpha-90-01-Integra-99-00-Honda-Civic-SI-B16-B17-B18-B20-/280765559982?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item415eee74ae

If your after downright power, the bisimoto rep makes the most power in the high range rpm so more suited for drag racers and peak dyno figures

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Honda-Acura-B16-B18-B20-Bisimoto-Style-Header-ITR-EP-/300565710190?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45fb1cc56e

There are also SMSP reps, which is an amazing header with great reviews but it works best on B20 or Built B18C engines


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Honda-Acura-Civic-Integra-SMSP-Style-Race-Header-B20-DC-/290540608409?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a591db99

BTW the seller honda-lab is reputable seller, he has been racing his blue integra for quite sometime and has dipped into the 11's on his B series DC2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ukJxHSRc0

Latino CRX
08-11-2011, 09:14 PM
got free springs and shocks from Hondapop so now can start choppn springs and gettin ride height set
to start cuttin and weldin flares on gaurds :)

dont worry wont be drivin on choppies will be gettin coil overs later ..

Super-DA9
08-11-2011, 09:45 PM
Thanks for the input guys :)

skunk2 is something I haven't considered. will have to do some research.

otherwise in the end I may just end up saving for TODA's. smsp are the tri-Y's I was talking about, bisimoto "style" ones look good but as you said it's all in the top.

thanks again I will keep these tips in mind.

dc2r-0636
08-11-2011, 11:10 PM
Put tyre shine on today lol

Super-DA9
09-11-2011, 10:57 PM
looks like you have to de-cat your exhaust to fit the skunk2 one. thats a let down, I was starting to seriously consider buying it :(

dc2r-0636
09-11-2011, 11:55 PM
Why do u have to decat?

mocchi
10-11-2011, 07:08 AM
inb4racecar.

decat is not an option, you can always cut pipe shorter and reweld.

Super-DA9
10-11-2011, 07:37 AM
Why do u have to decat?

because the header is designed to bypass the catalytic converter, straight through to the B-pipe.

DC2-PWR
10-11-2011, 09:40 AM
Great post sami, the skunk2 alpha one looks interesting!

Super-DA9
10-11-2011, 04:54 PM
Great post sami, the skunk2 alpha one looks interesting!

I know right? gaah if only it didn't require de-catting the exhaust :(

I suppose you could chop the exhaust but then it'd be hard to re-sell your catback if you decided to change it :/

89lude
10-11-2011, 11:54 PM
dc5r, good donor car :D

http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h445/an-tho-mi/IMG_2058.jpg

DC2-PWR
10-11-2011, 11:57 PM
I know right? gaah if only it didn't require de-catting the exhaust :(

I suppose you could chop the exhaust but then it'd be hard to re-sell your catback if you decided to change it :/

probably thats why it made more power than toda, because straight through.

dw man you'll figure it out :)

Vvvtec
10-11-2011, 11:59 PM
Going k20/24? Is that dc5 dark green?

EKVTIR-T
11-11-2011, 12:10 AM
Ohhh so hes the one that bought that uhh green beast :D

89lude
11-11-2011, 12:32 AM
i didnt buy the green beast. i bought the motor setup. and the owner paid me to strip the car down to bare shell so i did that today after pulling the motor.

And alex i wont be going k24/20 frankenstein. Just bought the setup got something planned but we'll see. Might be upgrading dailys :D

Vvvtec
11-11-2011, 11:19 AM
Hahaha mad. So jealous man. I'm going Kseries now too.

1900-hustler
11-11-2011, 12:54 PM
all these ballers going K swaps

Bludger
11-11-2011, 01:59 PM
why complain for?

you already got a K

Super-DA9
11-11-2011, 03:56 PM
K is awesome, I'd love one, but I've poured to much into my B already haha. though I do love the B series engine sound a lot.

pretty baller spec price tag on K-swaps too huh? :/

89lude
11-11-2011, 04:03 PM
Of course its hard to move on from our beloved b series, but kswaps have proven to be fast. Its good now with alot of people experienced with the k series engines, so you know support is just a phone call away! And the k series is sooo good on fuel too!

Vvvtec
11-11-2011, 08:24 PM
K is awesome, I'd love one, but I've poured to much into my B already haha. though I do love the B series engine sound a lot.

pretty baller spec price tag on K-swaps too huh? :/

I think the enjoyment that comes from the swap is worth the cash haha ;) Plus doing it all DIY is where it's at, that's the real fun of it.


Of course its hard to move on from our beloved b series, but kswaps have proven to be fast. Its good now with alot of people experienced with the k series engines, so you know support is just a phone call away! And the k series is sooo good on fuel too!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: I'm sure i'm gonna have many questions for you and all the other guys I can talk to haha

Super-DA9
11-11-2011, 09:57 PM
I think the enjoyment that comes from the swap is worth the cash haha ;) Plus doing it all DIY is where it's at, that's the real fun of it.

yeah true that but argh, I just couldn't bring myself to get rid of my B18 :(

maybe if the B18 dies eventually I'll get a K :P

Vvvtec
11-11-2011, 10:33 PM
All it takes is one single ride in a K powered car and you'll never look at the Bseries the same way ever again haha

89lude
11-11-2011, 10:40 PM
yeah true that but argh, I just couldn't bring myself to get rid of my B18 :(

maybe if the B18 dies eventually I'll get a K :P

i dont think you want to wait for that, my b18c died, if i had of sold it off first i would of had 5k to start off...instead i had to fork out more cash in one hit for the k

GSi_PSi
12-11-2011, 09:29 AM
k series just picks up and goes, gear after gear it doesnt disaapoint.
My B20 feels like it has more torque thooo? i guess its due to the heavy duty clutch and mine almost on its way out ?

Super-DA9
12-11-2011, 09:37 AM
i dont think you want to wait for that, my b18c died, if i had of sold it off first i would of had 5k to start off...instead i had to fork out more cash in one hit for the k

Nah man doesn't matter for me, too much money and time put into the B18 to turn back. I don't make baller enough wages to do mad projects, I only have what I have because I save money by DIY. :(

so whats the go with your K-Monster? still selling or keeping?

89lude
12-11-2011, 10:08 AM
Nah man doesn't matter for me, too much money and time put into the B18 to turn back. I don't make baller enough wages to do mad projects, I only have what I have because I save money by DIY. :(

so whats the go with your K-Monster? still selling or keeping?

Well everything is for sale for the right price. But I'm still building the car! Will be slow for awhile, times are tough around xmas/ny. Asking for opinions in my build thread atm before i go forward with few things! But yeah same goes for us, we aint baller or anything just save by diy and learn on the way. I'm a student after all so don't work often either.

Super-DA9
12-11-2011, 10:50 AM
Well everything is for sale for the right price. But I'm still building the car! Will be slow for awhile, times are tough around xmas/ny. Asking for opinions in my build thread atm before i go forward with few things! But yeah same goes for us, we aint baller or anything just save by diy and learn on the way. I'm a student after all so don't work often either.

haha man you must have to save up cash something epic if you can buy all that awesome stuff while studying! been following both your builds, inspiring stuff man. good on you for DIY'ing everything. I reckon you should keep that teg man, sooo much work put into it so it'd be a shame to see it go so soon :(

Lukey
12-11-2011, 06:34 PM
something broke on mine today

tripleuse
13-11-2011, 08:05 PM
finally turned over the k20, worked fine thank god

45SET
13-11-2011, 09:36 PM
Another day... another set back.

This one is our fault though. As you all know, we took the K20 out last week, and had it sitting on the ground, then we discovered the threaded head on the K24... so we started pulling that apart, disregarding the K20 all together.

Today we started by pulling the gearbox off the K20... boom... clutch is dead. Glenn confirmed that on side had no meat left on it, and the other had about 1mm. Glenn has told me to ring Direct Clutch in Brisbane and have them repuck the Excedy clutch I have with either a 5 or 6 puck carbotic spring disk. I'll also have them test clamp the pressure plate and see if they can modify the fingers for more clamping pressure. Obviously I'll have my 3.8kg Toda flywheel machined in the process. Hopefully this can all be done before Thursday (We'll be dropping it off on Monday)

So we decided to put the K24 all back together, ready for the gearbox to be mounted, so that we can put it into the car by no later then Friday! It's all going to be very touch and go for us and this build in the next week. The basic run down is:
- New clutch (To above specs) and machined flywheel
- Fit Clutch and flywheel
- Fit engine
- Rewire engine
- Fit sub frame
Hopefully the above can be done by next Friday. The following needs to be done on the Saturday morning :s
- Wheel alignment
- 3' stainless cat back
As most of the work shops in Brisbane are only open till 12pm on a Saturday, I'm not sure how I'm going to go with the Saturday morning stuff... even though the exhaust shop I plan to use is only down the road from my suspension shop.

If all of the above is done, I'll be getting Adrian to tune the car on Monday... YAY!

Anyway... where are some happy snaps of the car. I always love to see engines with all the bits attached to them, so I thought I would mount my Toda headers and my RBC to the engine, just so I can see what it all looks like... before it's hidden in the engine bay.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0192.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0193.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0194.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/45SET/Integra/IMAG0195.jpg

I've also noticed that when I get bad news about the engine (Such as the threaded spark plug and clutch), I start to clean stuff. I've basically degreased the gearbox last week when I found out about the spark plug... and the engine when I heard about the clutch.

This has really got me to thinking of getting rid of aircon, sourcing an electronic steering rack (Thus eliminating the powering steering pump), and going all out with a wire tuck. I'm actually REALLY enjoying all this DIY work I've been doing/helping with, and I wouldn't mind actually building a car to similar specs to something you would probably find in the States.

Super-DA9
13-11-2011, 10:46 PM
I took mine to all japan day in silverwater park today. go here to see the pics I took of the cars there:

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?149366-Canberra-Honda-Enthusiast-Roll-Call!/page27

probably got some members rides in there somewhere :)

r3ckless
15-11-2011, 10:13 AM
Robi's post just pwns all!

MitchDc2
16-11-2011, 09:56 PM
Paint Prep! Just another day when its off the road....

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/white_kon/IMG_0010.jpg?t=1321444515

ITR032
16-11-2011, 10:47 PM
restored my type r seat foam. now for a big clean and they should be as good as new :)

Latino CRX
18-11-2011, 07:24 PM
da B18c2 decided to shit itself soo pullin it all apart and slowly rebuilding ..

pick up another Skyline in few wks .. but have to get 4 door cause of baby :( .. all good tho

EKVTIR-T
18-11-2011, 07:28 PM
what skyline? V35?

Latino CRX
18-11-2011, 07:29 PM
na i need boost again .. R34 Gt-T or if i can find a R32 with RB25 converted will get that

EKVTIR-T
18-11-2011, 07:34 PM
32 sedans are yummy but not many around it seems

r3ckless
18-11-2011, 09:33 PM
Tried dropping my car off at heasmans - parts not in. Tried
Dropping off at panel beaters, too busy :/ fail

Prince_James
18-11-2011, 09:47 PM
Minor service at hannys
Regased A/C
Bought new engine mount
Full tank of BP ultimate =D

1900-hustler
19-11-2011, 08:36 AM
did hannys regas your AC

or did you go to midas around the corner

Prince_James
19-11-2011, 10:08 AM
Went to C.P auto electrical down the road
was told to go there by hannys
turns out previous owner did the car there too

45SET
20-11-2011, 11:17 PM
Drove it

This is special for 2 reasons:
1 - I haven't driven it for 3 weeks
2 - It now has K24 under the bonnet

Bludger
20-11-2011, 11:18 PM
report?

good, bad, ugly?

45SET
20-11-2011, 11:20 PM
report?

good, bad, ugly?

Where is the Epic option?

Bludger
20-11-2011, 11:21 PM
looking forward to more info when it's made available....

45SET
20-11-2011, 11:24 PM
3' stainless cat back tomorrow morning at 7:30, then off to get a tune by Adrian in the afternoon.

Using the following mods, the car is stupidly quick, and doesn't even feel like it's being pushed
- K20a2 tune by Adrian
- Toda headers
- Mugen Twin loop cat back (Which fouls on the chassis :( )
- Pod-on-a-pipe (Mugen Airbox doesn't fit any more:( )

Vvvtec
21-11-2011, 01:38 PM
Oh man, so keen to hear more about this Robi!